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Stuart Brown's avatar

These results are in line with what is found in evolutionary biology for all kinds of traits. Really important for the politics, is breaking the idea that any given test fully represents some generic objective category that itself is an approximation of a multi factor complex reality. Something a greater understanding of biology would have helped with. Racism and patriarchy are also meritocracy, and also based on a simplified idea about ability, just using a different test. We are stuck on hierarchical binary thinking. That benefits those at the approved side of the meritocractic divide, and they inevitably grasp more resources, and it gives them a story to justify this, making the merit measure more and more high stakes for many people, whose right to even exist is called into question if they are on the wrong side.

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This might be too long a time for a response, but the paper was recently mentioned in the Economist and I found this blog post because I was curious if others had talked about it.

I think your premise about the quota being a proxy could certainly be correct, but the article just seems to give an implausible amount of weight to how students are accepted into the university as the only? mechanism for the success of a different cohert of students at least 30 years later. Schaede and Mankki are not talking a quota system for hiring teachers — they are talking about how Education majors get accepted into a university. They aren’t saying that student success at the university changed after the introduction of the quota. They are talking about the performance of 25 year olds whose primary school teacher was accepted into university under different systems (and it certainly complicates stats of matriculation exams when one takes into account that not all beginning Education majors will graduate with a degree in Education, and not all those that graduate will find a job, etc). I just can’t see how the data can be used to support the assertion, even if the underlying premise is correct. In effect, isn’t the article asserting that the education/employment achievements of a 25 year old is due to how their elementary school teacher got accepted to a university?

(As a factual issue, I doubt that retirement was mandatory at 60, but I arrived in Finland after the years in question so I don’t know that for sure. I suspect it was more that primary school teachers *could* retire at 60, with a reduction in pension if they hdn’t worked enough years).

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